Grand Rounds Recap 9.6.23

ultrasound grand rounds: bedside dvt studies - family presence in the ed/icu - r1 clinical knowledge: aicd - r3 small groups: difficult airway management


Ultrasound grand rounds: DVT studies WITH Dr. minges

  • Why should we perform bedside DVT studies in the ED?

    • Limited availability of radiology-performed US services in certain hospitals, especially overnight

    • Can avoid unnecessary anticoagulation in patients

    • Reduce time in ED to disposition

  • In terms of workflow, when there is suspicion for a DVT, you need to first calculate a Wells’ Score for a DVT

    • If low/moderate risk, can start with a D-dimer prior to committing to a DVT study

    • If high risk, can go directly to a DVT study

  • The bedside DVT protocol in the our Emergency Department

    • Typically use a linear probe

      • Yet, can use curvilinear if vessels are found to be deeper than expected

    • Goal is to find the landmarks noted below and apply pressure to ensure the vessel fully compresses at each site

    • First find saphenofemoral junction (SFJ)

    • Then move the probe proximally to find the Common Femoral Vein (CFV) & start your compressions there

    • Move back down to the SFJ

    • Attempt to compress the Common Femoral Vein (CFV) and Greater Saphenous Vein (GSV)

      • Look 1-2cm along the GSV as well, as these are still clinically important and can actually lead to a PE

    • Continue compressing distally and look for the division between the Femoral Vein (FV) and Deep Femoral Vein (DFV)

      • Typically looks like a snowman

    • Follow FV down thigh and continue to attempt to compress every few centimeters

    • Go down to the Popliteal Vein (PV)

      • This is a low pressure vein, so be mindful of the amount of pressure you apply

      • Typically find it just above the pulsating popliteal artery

    • Move down and find the popliteal trifurcation

      • Sometimes there are some anatomical variations, such as a bifurcation being present instead


Family Presence in the ED and critical care WITH dr. kreitzer

  • Field of pediatrics and neonatally pioneered family presence at the patient’s bedside

  • Family presence during CPR/procedures

    • Families benefit most by being present during resuscitation or CPR

    • Report a sense of control, closure, and improved understanding of loved one’s condition

    • There was a randomized control study published in NEJM (Jabre, et al., 2013)

      • In this study, family members were invited to observe CPR compared to a control group

      • 79% witnessed CPR (compared to 43% in the control group)

      • PTSD rates, as well as anxiety and depression, were all higher in control group, compared to group invited to witnessed CPR

      • Yet, there were no changes in resuscitation outcomes, including patient survival rates, despite presence of family members 

  • So why don’t we have more families at the bedside?

    • Providers are worried that families will interfere with patient care

    • Also worried that the psychological burden would be too high for family members

  • Family centered model can typically benefit patients

    • Reduced length of ICU stay

    • Reduced patient’s & family member’s anxiety, stress

    • Nonetheless, can also increase risk of infection transmission

  • Family centered model can typical benefit providers as well

    • Family members can supply additional pertinent history

    • Relatives can acutely notice clinical changes in their loved ones

    • If family is present during rounding, this will actually reduce family meetings outside of rounds

  • Yet it can have drawbacks to providers as well

    • Nursing staff report increase in workload, as they have to support and educate family members, as well as the patient themselves

    • Increases rounding time, while also reducing the educational discussions during rounds

    • May reduce the delivery of valid, yet negative information during rounds

  • What can you do on your ED or ICU shifts to make experiences better for patients and their families?

    • Overall, need to think about ways that might reduce anxiety, depressive symptoms, or PTSD (rather than just patient satisfaction)

    • When speaking with families, try to identify one family member as a representative

    • Initial information to families should include information about the hospital, ICU, visiting hours, how a provider can be reached

    • Noise in the care environment should be reduced

    • Encourage the start of a diary or journal

    • If family members choose to be present for procedures, healthcare professionals need to recognize the complexity of emotions and adequately prepare for them

    • Clinicians must take precautions to make sure that bedside presence is comfortable and safe for families

    • Encourage family to be present during rounds and family meetings

      • Family meetings should be multidisciplinary and include nursing staff

      • Family meeting should occur 24-48 hours after admission and repeated as necessary

      • Address a family member’s emotional needs and provide resources for coping during these meetings

    • Organizations should aim to:

      • Provide support to nursing staff who are expected to engage in family centered care

      • Have protocols and education for families regarding infection control, ED and ICU process, and regulations

      • Train staff to assess family needs, be consistent, and provide regular updates in accessible language, and in a variety of formats.

      • Provide support staff such as social work, clergy, and potentially support groups


r1 clinical knowledge: AICD WITH dr. onuzuruike

  • AICDs shock when detecting V tach or V fib

    • assuming the device is functioning properly and correctly identifying a malignant, ventricular rhythm

  • Magnets turn off defibrillating features

    • yet pacing function will remain intact

  • History, physical, and labs help with disposition

    • Stable patients can either go home or be observed overnight

    • Unstable patients will typically require consult and admission


r3 small groups: difficult airway management WITH drs. negron & wright

  • Assess for a difficult airway using the LEMON mnemonic

    • L - Look for concerning external features (facial swelling, trauma, dentures, C spine immobilization)

    • E - Evaluate with 3-3-2 rule for mouth opening and larynx positioning (3 finger breadths mouth opening, 3 finger breadths hymenal distance, 2 finger breadths thyrohyoid distance)

    • M - Mallampati score (oral airway accessibility)

    • O - Obstruction and obesity (tongue swelling, masses, burns, body habitus)

    • N - Neck mobility (C collar, extreme kyphosis)

  • Management of a Difficulty Airway

    • Impending Need for Intubation

      • Pre-oxygenate, ETCO2

      • Determine RSI safety, address hemodynamics

      • Optimize positioning

      • Plan A, B, C for airway

        • Evaluate need for awake intubation

        • Difficult airway equipment nearby (SGA, bougie, intubation adjuncts)

        • Surgical airway equipment backup

      • Know who to call and how if you fail

    • Immediate Need for Intubation

      • Optimize first attempt as noted above

      • Have variety of adjuncts readily available

      • Video-laryngoscopy to aid visualization

      • Bougie to facilitate passage if poor visualization

      • Aintree for iGel exchange

      • Consider short acting NMJ blocker

  • Failed Intubation

    • Declare a failed intubation

    • BVM between attempts

    • Intubation adjuncts

      • Make subsequent attempt(s) different

    • Consult airway back up (ex. ENT) if needed

  • Cannot Intubate Cannot Ventilate (CICV) Scenario

    • If unable to intubate and have lost ability to ventilate, declare CICV scenario

    • Attempt surgical airway

    • Consult airway back up

  • CASE 1: Inhalation injury

    • Suspect when enclosed in fire/smoke

    • Facial burns, singed hair, soot in face or airway

    • Look for red flags: stridor, dysphonia, extensive burns

    • Consider an “Awake look” with sedative (yet no paralytic)

      • considering preloading ETT

      • especially if any red flags present

    • In concomitant trauma with ability to access oropharynx with acceptable Mallampati score and other indications for intubation (head trauma, AMS in our case), oral approach reasonable with video-laryngoscopy preferred

  • CASE 2: Foreign Body Aspiration

    • Consider position of foreign body (complete vs partial obstruction)

    • In patient undergoing CPR; look with video-laryngoscopy

    • Utilize Magill forceps for supraglottic visualized foreign bodies

    • If difficult to reach, code situation, or CICV scenario, consider mainstream intubation to force the foreign body to right mainstem, then retract ETT to normal positioning and ventilate

  • CASE 3: Angioedema

    • Prep fiberoptic scope and materials: ETT, 10 cc syringe, jelly, nasal trumpet, ETCO2, securing supplies

    • Patient prep: Upright, head slight extension, pre-oxygenation via NRB, glycopyrrolate, zofran, afrin, mucosal atomizer with 4% lidocaine, viscous lidocaine

    • Medications: consider ketamine, propofol, or a combination of both

    • Scope through slit nasal trumpet (so nasal trumpet can then be removed)

    • Or, alternatively can subtotally intubate with ETT in the nare and scope through ETT

  • CASE 4: Facial Trauma

    • Optimize first attempt considering possible obstruction based on fractures, edema and initial LEMON assessment

    • Suction set-up is key

    • Consider direct laryngoscopy although VL with DL back up very reasonable, especially with C spine immobilization

  • CASE 5: Intubating Through an iGel Device

  • Patient’s hemodynamics and predictors of a difficult airway may limit ability to successfully remove pre-hospital a iGel device and allow intubation attempt

  • In this case, you can actually intubate through the iGel itself

  • Two-Tube Technique:

    • For a size 4 iGel, preload a 7.0 ETT onto a fiberoptic scope.

    • Lubricate fiberoptic scope and 7.0 ETT.

    • Pre-load the 7.0 ETT onto fiberoptic scope.

    • Scope through the iGel to the level of the carina.

    • Feed ETT over scope.

    • Remove scope, noting level above carina as you withdraw past ETT. Inflate balloon.

    • Remove BVM adaptor from ETT and fit with end of 6.5 or 6.0 ETT, also with its BVM adaptor removed.

    • Remove iGel over the extended/attached ETTs, taking care not to dislodge ETT from position and disconnecting the two tubes when able.

    • Reattach BVM adaptor.

  • Aintree Technique:

    • Attach bronchoscopy adaptor to iGel and continue bagging.

    • Lubricate fiberoptic scope, 7.0 ETT, and Aintree catheter.

    • Feed Aintree catheter onto fiberoptic scope, securing it to base of scope with a small piece of tape.

    • Insert scope with Aintree overtop through the adaptor while assistant/RT continues to bag. Identify and advance to carina.

    • Pass Aintree catheter over scope. Remove scope.

    • Remove iGel (and adaptor) over the Aintree catheter, taking care to not allow catheter to become dislodged. Note that you may attach adaptor to Aintree to try to oxygenate here if sats drop, but unlikely to offer much in terms of oxygenation.

    • Intubate over the Aintree as you would a bougie. You may use VL to attempt to visualize tube through cords.