Grand Rounds Recap 7.6.2022


Baxterisms WITH Dr. Baxter

Consistency of thought and action. Does your work up, disposition, and conclusion make logical sense 

  • Decide your level of concern and disposition then choose your treatment plan accordingly

  • The clinical pendulum 

    • R1 everyone is sick 

    • R2 everyone is fine

      • Task prioritization 

    • R3 everyone is ACTUALLY sick 

    • R4 right on target

      • Find the balance of letting R1s grow and resource utilization

  • Beware of the rapid disposition decision at the time of turn over 

    • Patients at sign-out can be thought of for 3 levels

      • Clearly sick 

      • Clearly well

      • I don't know yet 

  • You are only allowed one “yeah but…” per patient. Said another way you are only allowed to explain away one goofy thing per patient 

  • If you have thought about it for more than 30 seconds you have reached a decision you just haven't realized it yet

  • Thinking

    • System 1 and System 2 thinking 

      • System 1 instinct,, pattern recognition

      • System 2 slower intentional logic and conscious thought

  • Time can be your friend

    • Some times reassessment is the most helpful test 


Practice patterns WITH Dr. Lafollette

  • Identify Input sources and biases and where your decisions are coming from

    • Traditional texts / slow updaters (textbook, uptodate)

    • Summative resources (FOAMed, Reviews)

    • Personal Anecdotes

    • Education (Second hand anecdote, interpreted literature)

  • How do you search for the right data in the moment to come to a decision

  • Example of pattern variation: Hyponatremia admission - what’s your absolute number?

    • Mild >130

    • Moderate 120-130

    • Severe <120 

    • The UK and NHS has guidelines that say greater than 120 could go home. Many suggestions say 125-120 is dependent on the mechanism of hyponatremia

    • All acute, severe and symptomatic hyponatremia should be considered for admission as RR 1.47 for all cause mortality

  • Example of evaluating the unknown: Sodium Nitrate Toxicity

    • Induces Methemoglobinemia 

    • Becoming more popular in Euthanasia communities online for Suicide attempts 

    • Oxygen sat ~85%, vasodilatory shock 

    • Methylene blue 1mg/kg over 5 minutes repeat at 1h if having symptoms 

  • Example of being skeptical: Mobitz Type 2 Block 

    • Patient presented with a fall and a head laceration. Had a reassuring evaluation. EKG abnormal but no prior available. Story from family and PCP was a mechanical fall like all other mechanical falls. Patient was discharged and then returned in a complete heart block.

    • 2:1 Block takes intentional suspicion and evaluation as hidden p can look like a U wave on the EKG

  • How do you have a deliberate practice to integrate your case experience with your continually evolving evidence base:

    • Epic Lists for patient follow ups

    • Personal Case review

    • M&M

    • Shift Debriefs

    • Literature surveillance

    • Summative Feeds

    • Teaching

    • Spaced repetition


Quick Hits WITH (EKG, Penetrating Neck Trauma, Research) with Drs. Lang, Sabedra, and Zalesky)

EKG: QT interval

  •  EKG: QT interval

    • -Beginning of Q or R wave to end of T wave

    • -What is it? Entirety of ventricular cardiac cycle 

    • -Measuring QT interval:

      • -Intersection of T wave maximum slope with the isoelectric line

    • -Bazett Formula: QTc=QT/sqrt(RR)

    • -MD Calc: Corrected QT Interval calculator 

    • -Causes of prolonged QT

      • -Hypocalcemia

      • -Hypomagnesemia

      • -Hypokalemia

      • -Hypothermia

      • -MI

      • -Medications/Drugs

      • -Genetics/congenital

      • -Raised ICP

    • -Risk of prolonged QT

      • -Torsades de pointes: shock, magnesium, overdrive pacing

    • -Short QT syndrome: channelopathy

      • -Males: QT < 330

      • -Females: QT < 340

      • -higher risks of afib, arrhythmias

      • Treatment: ICD

Penetrating Neck Trauma:

  • Anatomy

    • -Zone 1: clavicle/sternum to cricoid cartilage; highest mortality

      • -trachea, carotid artery, esophagus

    • -Zone 2: cricoid cartilage to mandible; “requires” surgical exploration

    • -Zone 3: superior angle of the mandible to skull base

  • GSW low vs high velocity

    • -High velocity weapons can fire at speeds over 2000 to 3000 ft/s

      • -More direct, predictable course through bone and soft tissue

      • -Cavitation

      • -Entry and exit wounds can appear innocuous

      • -Military weapons and hunting rifles

    • -Low-velocity weapons

      • -More erratic, unpredictable path

      • -0.22 caliber guns, other handguns, air guns

  • Focus on immediate life-threats: exsanguination, asphyxiation from airway obstruction

  • Massive hemorrhage

    • -Direct pressure

    • -Wound packing

    • -Balloon tamponade

    • -Exploration 

  • Airway:

    • -RSI with double set up

    • -Awake look

    • -Fiberoptic guided oral intubation

    • -BVM can be problematic

  • C-spine immobilization

    • -Eastern Association for the Surgery of Trauma (EAST): only necessary when a neurologic deficit is present or a proper physical examination cannot be performed and the mechanism is suspicious for possible spinal cord or column injury

  • Hard and soft signs of penetrating neck injury

    • -Hard signs for vascular injury

      • -Severe or uncontrolled hemorrhage

      • -Large, expanding, or pulsatile hematoma

      • -Thrills or bruits

      • -Shock unresponsive to IV fluid resuscitation

      • -Absent or diminished radial pulse

      • -Neurologic deficit (eg, hemiplegia) consistent with cerebral ischemia

    • -Hard signs for aerodigestive injury

      • -Air bubbling from a wound

      • -Massive hemoptysis or hematemesis

      • -Respiratory distress

  • Physical exam

    • -Voice

    • -Tracheal position

    • -Thrills/bruits

    • -Crepitus

    • -Focal neuro deficit/Horner’s syndrome

  • Zone vs No-zone

    • Zone:

      • -relatively high rates of negative surgical exploration

      • -multidetector CTA (MDCT-A)

    • No Zone

      • -based on patient stability and the presence of soft versus hard sign of injury, regardless of injury location

      • -unstable patients → OR

      • -stable but symptomatic → MDCT-A

        • -NPV: 98-100%

        • -findings can be compromised by suboptimal contrast timing and by artifacts from metallic foreign bodies such as dental fillings, bullet fragments, and spinal hardware in up to 1% of studies

  • Pharyngoesophageal Injury: mortality rates as high as 20% with delays in diagnosis

    • -Delays >24 hours further increase the mortality rate

    • -MDCT alone is inadequate

    • -Direct esophageal studies nearly 100% sensitivity

    • -Broad-spectrum antibiotics in all patients with possible PEI

  • For the test…

    • -Injury to platysma suggests a deeper injury

    • -Know the hard signs

    • -Most commonly injured artery is the carotid

    • -Zones, particularly zone 2, which “requires” surgical exploration

Research Lit Blitz

  • The Effect of Macrolides on Mortality in Bacteremic Pneumococcal Pneumonia: A Retrospective, Nationwide Cohort Study, Israel, 2009–2017

  • https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35443039/

  • Population: Israeli cohort from 2009-2017 with pneumonia on imaging and Blood cultures positive of Pneumococcus.  Patients ~67yo, admitted for an average of 6 days, 20% mortality, and 18% admitted to the ICU. 

  • Intervention: Exposure to macrolides 

  • Comparison: Mortality after 72 hours of admission

  • Outcome: patients treated with macrolides in addition to beta-lactams had a decreased mortality compared to beta-lactams alone or quinolones OR 0.55 or decreased odds of mortality 45%


Neuro Imaging WITH Dr. Knight

  • Basilar Artery Thrombosis 

    • CT/CTA negative by original doctor and transferred for seizures

    • Be concerned for dizzy “plus” an additional finding

      • Gauze preference, posturing(“seizure when touched is likely stimulus induced posturing”)

  • Holo-hemispheric contrast lost

    • Patient came from OSH and was found acutely unresponsive. Had CTA completed showing contrast intracranially and extracranially on one side of the body 

    • Angio showed intact circle of willis 

    • Eventually further investigation showed the PICC line was intra-arterial and the contrast timing on the initial imaging was missed timed as the contrast was given in an arterial port. 

  • GSW to the head

    • 2 ballistic injuries to the right hemisphere with no involvement of the left hemisphere. 

      • Initial CT with significant injury 

      • CTA with intact circle of willis and Empty Delta sign 

    • Patient had a Sinus Venous Thrombosis 

      • These are time sensitive diagnosis that are important to consider in the ED

  • Cerebellar Infarct

    • Need non-con and vessel imaging

    • Neurosurgical emergency for Sub-occipital craniectomy 

      • Worsening swelling will cause herniation


Care of the incarcerated patient WITH Dr. Srivastava (Medical Director of the Hamilton County justice center)

  • The Connected system

    • NAPHCARE

      • Private Organization contracted for the care of incarcerated persons at the Hamilton county justice center

    • Medical Director

    • Mental health director

    • Psychiatrist

    • Midlevel Providers

    • Counselors, RNS LPNs support staff

    • The connected system 

    • Hamilton County Justice Center

      • Sheriff McGuffey, Major Daniel E EMS

      • Captain Scott Kerr

    • NAPHCARE

      • Medical 

      • Mental Health

    • UCMC

      • Indigent Care Levy

      • Emergency Department

      • Inpatient care

      • Outpatient care

      • Post acute care (UCMC and Naphcare) 

  • National Commission on correctional health care 

  • Medications

    • Onsite pharmacy

    • Formulary

    • Non-formulary

    • UCMC IDC

    • Psychiatric

      • Injections

    • Medication assisted treatment

      • Methadone

        • Pregnancy

      • Buprenorphine

        • Community continuation

        • Induction

      • Vivitrol

      • Sublocade

  • Available Diagnostics

    • X-Ray

    • Fetal Heart tones

    • EKG

    • Labs

      • Some stat labs are sent to UCMC

    • UDS

    • UA

  • Interventions

    • IVs

    • PICC care

    • Ostomy care

    • Wound Care

    • Suture/Stapling of sounds

    • Splinting and casting

  • Patient Services 

    • MD Sick call

    • Chronic Care

    • OB/GYN

    • Nursing sick call 

    • Diabetic care

    • Detox support and monitoring

    • Nursing H&P

    • Dental care (annual and acute care)

  • Sentinel Events 

    • Formal Case review

    • Follow up with Coroners office for autopsy

    • Policy and procedure review

  • UCMC Partnership

    • Formal pathways in the ED, Hoxworth, Infectious disease clinic, Ortho clinic, plastics